Chasing Financial Freedom

Ep 297 | 4 Proven Strategies to Master Time Management and Boost Productivity for a Balanced Life

September 11, 2024 Ryan DeMent Episode 297

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Have you ever wondered how to break free from the burnout cycle and find a sustainable rhythm in your personal and professional life? Join us as we sit down with Leah Remillet, a system strategist and productivity expert who shares her transformative journey from the brink of collapse to mastering the art of balanced living. Leah's candid recounting of her struggles with time management and the pivotal moment when she collapsed from exhaustion offers a profound insight into the importance of prioritizing self-care and creating effective systems to thrive in all facets of life.

With Leah's expert advice, unlock practical strategies for managing your time and prioritizing your goals. From tracking hours and eliminating non-productive activities to the powerful time-blocking technique, Leah provides actionable tips that can revolutionize how you approach your daily tasks. Discover why starting your day with high-impact activities instead of distractions like emails can significantly boost your productivity. Organizing and ranking your tasks, you'll learn how to create an efficient workflow that aligns with your personal and professional aspirations.

Ever feel overwhelmed by constant phone notifications and the societal pressure to be always available? Leah shares her journey to overcoming this anxiety and the systems she implemented to protect her productivity and personal relationships. Learn about the importance of setting boundaries with technology, creating habits that prioritize real-life interactions, and visualizing systems to understand their impact. Plus, don't miss out on a special gift at giftbalancingbusy.com, where you can see these systems in action. This episode is a treasure trove of insights and practical advice for anyone looking to enhance productivity and achieve a balanced, fulfilling life.

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Speaker 1:

Hey guys, ryan DeMett from Chasing Financial Freedom podcast. Hope you guys are having a great day. Today on the podcast, we have Leah Remillet and she is helping time-starved entrepreneurs and professionals. Do less but better. Guys, this is going to be a great conversation because we all value time and I think we could all do better. So, leah, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2:

Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to jump into this today.

Speaker 1:

You're more than welcome. So before we get into what you're doing, can you tell the listeners a little about who you are?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. I think of myself as a system strategist and an expert when it comes to productivity, and that is not because I've always done it right. It's actually because I did it so wrong that I just ultimately became obsessed with figuring out how to do business better. I've been running my company for 16 years. The first few years were rocky because I was hustling, hustling and then I just burnt out really bad, ended up in an ambulance, burned out. So that was my moment where I said, ok, I'm either figuring this out or I'm walking away. And I didn't want to walk away.

Speaker 2:

I wanted to believe that there was a way to feel fulfilled in all your different areas and to truly feel like you're thriving, which, in my mind, thriving is all the areas of your life feel good. They may not be perfect, but they feel good. And so that's what I set out to do. I want to be a great mom. I want to be a great wife. I want to be a great boss, a great business owner. I even want to be able to have time to do other things that I enjoy doing Going out with girlfriends, taking a nap every once in a while, reading books, all those things. So that was the goal.

Speaker 1:

Okay, we got to start and go all the way to the back and go right from the beginning. You literally were taken out in an ambulance.

Speaker 2:

I was Essentially. I think a lot of people can relate to this feeling that there's never enough hours in the day.

Speaker 2:

Right there's so much that we need to do and that we are needed in so many different capacities and I just kept trying to give more and it was never enough. And I had little ones at the time and I they need you all day, all the time. Plus, I'm trying to work with all of my employees and make sure everybody's doing what they need to do and be on calls and try to fit things in during nap time. And I ended up one day being like I put the kids to bed and I went to work and it was glorious Nobody bugs you when it's two in the morning Like I got so much done and I started this habit of putting the kids to bed at 7.38, going into my office and working, and working and it became where I would go till about 5 am. Sometimes literally my head would hit the keyboard because I would just fall asleep. I'd drag myself to bed, I'd get back up at 7 am and I figured out I could do this for about four days in a row. So about four days in a row I'll stay up till about four or five in the morning, drag myself back up at seven and then after four days I had to get at least about five, six hours and then I would start my cycle again.

Speaker 2:

My husband was in graduate school at the time and I'm just trying to be our sole provider, take care of our kids, run the house. Literally, it just felt like everything was on my shoulders while he's trying to help, but he's in med school and it's just not available. I kept doing this and doing this and the mom guilt that I felt was so heavy and so real. And my way for compensating was that I bought passes for everything. We had the zoo, the science center, the forestry center, anything there was an annual pass for. I bought it and every Wednesday I would take the kids and we would go to one of these. And it was honestly maybe the three hours a week that I felt like a good mom, because I didn't work. Everything was left behind. This was like pre-smartphones actually being smart, so you couldn't even work from your phone if you wanted to really and like outside of like maybe getting a text, and so I was present for those three or four hours and it was honestly the only part of the week where I felt like I was this good mom and we were at the zoo one week. I remember it vividly we were coming out of the alligator exhibit, which was my oldest, who was only five at the time her favorite.

Speaker 2:

We're starting to walk out of this reptile part and I start feeling everything closing in. Everything's going dark, my hearing's leaving, my vision's leaving. I'm like oh crap. And I'm trying to get myself over to a bench before I collapse. I don't quite make it and when I wake up I'm on a stretcher and I'm completely disoriented. I'm trying to figure out what happens and I lock eyes with my daughter, my oldest, who was five, and her little eyes were just saucers. She was so scared and they were so huge. And she's holding her little sister's hand, who's four, and the baby is in the stroller.

Speaker 2:

And I realized in that moment that I had done this and I don't mean that in a self-deprecating, I just mean my choices had landed me here. It turns out you can't give up sleep and continue, right. My body literally went on strike and was like we're done, we're not doing this anymore. And so I was taken to the hospital and, before I was even discharged, I knew I will solve this or I will walk away, which was terrifying because, like I said, I was our sole provider, like who's paying the mortgage? How are we putting food on the table? But there is just no way. There's this quote that I love that says there is no success that is worth failure in the home, and in that moment I realized that so profoundly that it was like okay, this will be solved.

Speaker 1:

I feel you because I've not always been an entrepreneur. All my life. I spent most of my career in corporate America. I ran call centers, collection agencies, anything with a financial instrument. I ran it. I had at any point between 1,000 and 4,000 people reporting to me. I had days like that where seven days a week I'm going and just it doesn't work. And then once you find that you're just chasing the next promotion or whatever the case is, everything else is lost. And I'm not saying that's you, that was me. It was me personally, because I was chasing the next promotion. I was not happy, but the one thing I'm now 50. I've been an entrepreneur for almost 10 years now. Probably in my late 30s, early 40s, I finally realized time was my most valuable asset, not money. And how would I get more time back into my schedule? And that's been ever since I left corporate America. My deal is to find better, effective ways to use my time so I can be productive but also be happy and be able to enjoy life.

Speaker 2:

Yes, amen, and that's the thing, right? I had that same moment. I think we all figure out what we're chasing right. For some it's the promotion, for others it's the next big goal, the next big income boost, the next big whatever it might be entrepreneurial or in the corporate world. Either way, we can get sucked into this. Ok, I've hit this. Now I got to try to hit the next one, and not even taking the time to enjoy what we've already accomplished or allow that to feel good.

Speaker 2:

And you know what you said about money and time. I came to the same realization. I realized I can always make more money. I cannot get that time back. It's gone. There's no way for me to get it back.

Speaker 2:

And when you're looking at with kids, everything is these little chapters with them, right? Oh, before they went to school, now they're in elementary, now they're in junior high. I have two in college now, and so I have been through every stage as an entrepreneur. Now I have I've literally had the infant. I started my company with a four month old, a two year old and a three year old Terrible timing, but that's what I did.

Speaker 2:

And then all the way up to two in college and my last one in high school, and, yeah, I know every stage and unfortunately, I also know what it feels like to be like I didn't make the right call. I should have chose them, and so that's what I want to help others do. I just want to help them feel truly in alignment, instead of this constant belief that it's give or take, like you can't have it all. I think there has to be real purpose and real intent, and you got to be willing to really stay firm on your core values. But you can have alignment, you can feel good in all the areas, and it opens up the world to just possibility when you get there.

Speaker 1:

So let's jump right into it. How do we get there? What would be the three nuggets? Let's say you're an entrepreneur. I'm guessing it could be anybody right now, because they're time starved. So what would be three nuggets we could start looking at to be able to get this balance back into our lives?

Speaker 2:

couple and then we'll go from there and see what direction you want to take them. The first thing is we are going to have to get really honest about the stories we tell about time, and I know that seems like a strange place to start, but one of my biggest reality checks was I was telling some stories about time that were setting me up for failure. Time and I were not friends, never was on my side, was never helping me. There was never enough of it. I felt really bitter with time. Right, I remember just feeling almost like angry, like how the crap do they get that much done? Like, here's me. I don't even sleep and I'm still feeling behind. Right, I really worked on the stories I was saying about time. I started talking about time like we were friends instead of enemies. Do you say things like oh, I'm always running late, I'm always behind. Oh, next month, maybe I'll get caught up? Just look for those stories that maybe you're telling yourself and try to shift them dramatically.

Speaker 2:

The second thing is we're going to have to start paying attention about where we actually spend our time. So, just like, if we go spend our money anywhere, we're start paying attention about where we actually spend our time. So, just like if we go spend our money anywhere, we're not paying attention, we just swipe in that card everywhere. All of a sudden, you're going to be like, oh crap, I'm negative. What happened? Like we have to pay attention to where our money goes, and what's so fascinating is that time is the most precious commodity we have and yet so often we are not careful with where it goes and how we spend it. We scroll on our phones way longer than we meant to. We say yes to the thing that we really shouldn't be saying yes to, in alignment with our goals and what we're trying to do. We get sucked into some email that shows up that says by the way, did you know that in order to be successful, you have to do this? And all of a sudden we're down some rabbit hole, buying something that we don't actually need, because we didn't pause to ask ourselves is this what I want? So getting really clear about where we're spending our time and how long things are taking.

Speaker 2:

And then that's going to take me into the third thing. Let's just start with that person who's like how am I supposed to implement anything else? I don't even have time to do everything I need to do. To that person I'm going to say track your hours. It's going to suck, you're going to hate it, there's nothing fun about it. I'm not even going to try to sugarcoat that, but when you track them, you can get very real about what's taking so much time.

Speaker 2:

Once you know that, then you know what adjustments to make. Now, if you have more money than you have time, then you're going to pay to get someone to help you a little bit so that you can take it off your plate. If you have more time than you have money, then you're going to work to put a few systems in your place. But what I hope is that, as soon as we track, one of the things I was able to do immediately was go, why am I spending so much time to do this? It's not even producing very good results. Scratch, gone. So as I started to do that and got really intentional about that 80-20, like what is actually bringing in the income, bringing in the results, getting me the most new prospects, whatever that metric is and I got very intentional with that and I got really good at saying yep, nope, not going to be doing the other things.

Speaker 1:

I love that and I know where I struggled with in that space is I was trying to do everything in the business and working in it instead of on it.

Speaker 1:

And you're right, when you first start up and you have a startup business, entrepreneur, you have more time than you have money.

Speaker 1:

So you've got to figure out a way to get organized.

Speaker 1:

And one of the things that I fought for the longest time was time blocking, and it now has become my great a really great friend is because the first two to four hours of every single day is blocked and I typically, at the end of each day, I still I'm looking at it, I've got a pad of paper that I write down the things that I need to accomplish and then at the end of the night, once I'm relaxed, so forth.

Speaker 1:

I rank them one to five, one to seven, whatever, and then I go in every morning for those two to four hours, because all these things that I have on this list are revenue generating tasks. I try not to do anything that doesn't generate us revenue and if I am, I'm helping out and I try to stay away from it. But until I got organized in my head and be able to put it on a piece of paper I was swimming in the time factory, as I call it, because it was just an endless loop that just kept on going and going, and I just kept on going, sinking straight down.

Speaker 2:

Oh, let's think about it. How do probably most people start their workday? They come in, they sit down, they open their inbox and they start checking to see what's there. Now here's the problem Our inboxes. That is someone else's to-do list for you. It's not your goals, it's not your plan for your day. It's how someone else hopes that you'll spend their day with them, so that they can put you in the direction that they want. So one of the things that I think is so important is do not start with your DMs or your inbox or any form of Slack whatever. Don't start with that. I do the exact same thing. I make my to-do list. I never have more than five things on a day, because I just know that's not even realistic and I want to feel that dopamine and the endorphins of I did it all. I checked it all off. So yes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I don't want this huge list that I can't ever get that. Look at me, I'm doing good. So I have, at the most, five things and I sit down and my goal is there's the number one. It starts. This is the number one needle mover that will move my business, my big goal that will move things forward. So I start there and I'm not doing anything else until I have made progress on that. And then I like to do with my inbox. I have two times a day where I check it. It's a time block. It's 30 minutes each time I can come in.

Speaker 2:

The first time I come into my inbox is honestly like a quick cleanup and looking for urgent. I take big ones where I'm like don't need to read them, delete. And then I get down to the ones that are important and then check over those. If I can handle them in a couple minutes, boom, done that two minute rule. If I can't, it goes back to unread and when the timer goes off I'm like, okay, email is closed down and I know I'm going to come back to it at the end of the day.

Speaker 2:

Now, every once in a while I'd be like, oh man, I got to get back to inbox zero. I'm going to carve out a little more time and just handle this, but for the most part it's like I'm in, I'm out and now I'm moving back on to my goals and people still feel completely taken care of because I'm still getting back to 90% of people the same day or the next day, and yet it doesn't take up everything. It doesn't distract me, because how many times are we finally sitting down to work on the project we've been saying we need to do? All day it's the end of the day, they're finally doing it and then the inbox chime happens and then they're like down some rabbit hole and they don't get to it. And so this idea of being like relentlessly in the pursuit of our goals and what we've said we're going to accomplish and then just prioritizing those things above everything else, it really does make the difference.

Speaker 1:

The other thing that gets to me is text messages. So I actually have there's certain parts of the day, like in the morning I wake up, I take Moose out for a walk, I journal whether people do it or not, I read some scripture, I just want to set my mindset. And then I sit down and one of the things that I do during that time is my phone's on do not disturb, I'm just I'm not going to be bothered. My phone's on, do not disturb, I'm just I'm not going to be bothered. But during the day when I'm working on tasks that are important to me, I make sure that I go do not disturb.

Speaker 1:

Also, the thing that I struggled with for the longest time is I'm pointing to my laptop over here and then I've also got a Mac, an iMac is. I would leave them up there and then I'd hear the ding there and I'm like that ain't going to work, because then I'm going to immediately look over there and say, oh, you want me to do that, and then I'm going to have to stop everything I'm doing to do that. And there's a reason why you don't get anything done on a daily basis and we all struggle with that and I still struggle with it, but with some structure and, like you said, a system, it actually can work. But you have to be willing to overcome the anxiety that comes with trying to respond to somebody within two seconds.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I remember feeling it so deeply. I remember thinking in a little bit of an arrogant way that like the whole business would crumble if I was not there 24-7. And it was very eye opening. When I was in, I went into the emergency room I get home. So a part of that is that I had a seizure while I was like being taken to the hospital.

Speaker 2:

After that seizure I had a stutter and it took a while to get that to correct itself and I was just really struggling. So, like my husband was like absolutely not, you are not stepping into that office. And my mind saw it all fall apart. Right, I just told this story that like there's no way it can exist without me. And guess what it all did. And that is one of the best things that happened to me, because that little dose of humility, of oh, guess what, it's all okay. It opened my eyes to wait, how many more things do I have my hands in that don't actually need to be in there? Like I can let go.

Speaker 2:

And one of the things that I think is a very real feeling is we hear these things. You got to be to them within. The person who gets there fastest gets the client. You've got to respond as quick as possible. You don't want to miss the opportunities. It's this grind, grind, hustle and it ends up bleeding into everything where we start getting confused with what's really most important. A lot of parents can relate to their kids starting to feel really frustrated because mom or dad is always looking at their phone, is always got the laptop nearby, is always saying just a minute, oh, I'm working, like, can't you see, and that message is you were important right up until work showed up, but work is more important. And so building some systems to honestly protect your relationships, some systems to honestly protect your relationships this is, I think, that having the access to our phones that we do is still fairly new right, like we, the cell phone technology we all grew up with. If someone was trying to call you, they called the home phone, the landline phone, and if you were home, you answered. And if you weren't, right Like this whole, we're all available 24-7 and people expect us to be available 24 seven. When you don't answer, you immediately get a text when are you? Why aren't you? We need to really be intentional about this and fix it, because it's breaking relationships and it's not worth it.

Speaker 2:

So I had just some simple systems that I put in place. Now I use Do Not Disturb, you can schedule, do Not Disturb. So I have scheduled ones all through the day. But I used to when the kids were still in elementary school. I had a time right when they got home from school, which was about 2.30 till about 5, where it was like, ok, phone goes in a drawer and I knew myself and I would sometimes sneak and check it, and so I actually put a silent alarm, gave it a custom name that would pop up and say are you being fully present? They are what matters most, literally, to get me back in check, I put in little systems like okay, during dinner time, no phones at the table, no phones go into bedrooms, we charge phones out in the kitchen, like I just started putting in these little systems, and this is silly.

Speaker 2:

But I'll just tell you something I'm really proud of, which is a very weird thing to be proud of, is that everybody who knows me personally knows Leah probably doesn't know where her phone is. She probably left it somewhere. I literally had to go pick it up the other day because I was like, and it took me three hours to figure out. I didn't even have it right. I'm pinging it everywhere. It's the whole reason I feel like I wear an Apple Watch is just so I can figure out where I left my phone left, and I've just built these habits where it is not the most important thing. Whatever's there can probably wait right, and my family has funny ways to find me, because they all know this about me and so they know if they have to get to me like Alexa might start yelling at me and being like mom, where are you? Or my find my phone might all of a sudden be going off because someone's trying to get me to answer. And you know what it's been okay. I've been known for not knowing where my phone is for a solid decade at this point and guess what? It's been okay.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, figuring out, each of us has our own little thing that's getting in our way and when we can test the water slowly at first, like I get where someone who's used to having their phone on them 24-7 answering in real time. The idea of not knowing where their phone is for hours at a time probably makes them want to like crawl out of their skin. But maybe they start with 30-minute blocks, dinner time. My phone is not going to be near me when the kids first get home from school or when I first get home from work. For that first 30 minutes my phone is on airplane mode. I'll have an alarm that goes off 30 minutes later so that I can turn it back on, but I'm going to be fully present. So, just looking at some things like that, when I'm doing that big project that really matters, my phone is on airplane mode in a drawer for 30 consecutive minutes so that I can really make some progress. Little things like that.

Speaker 2:

It's amazing how I used to look for one big button, right Like the easy button. You're going to press that and it's going to be like whoa, there's going to be this one system, this one piece of tech, this one app, this one thing, and it's going to fix it all. I looked for it, I have been looking for it for a long time now and that's not the answer. It's all of these little needle movers and you put one little needle mover in and it saves you 10 minutes, and another one and it saves you 15, another one and, oh my gosh, this one saves me 30. Another one back, and that saves me 10.

Speaker 2:

You start stacking those and we're talking hours, and that's what I teach. I love teaching. Hey, this one and this one, and let's stack them in all these different areas, in every department of your business, in every area of your home life, right, and we stack enough of those. And all of a sudden you're looking around and you're like, oh my gosh, I work three days a week now. Right, maybe it starts it instead of seven, six, five, right, you work your way down, but you realize, wow, I really am making a full-time income on part-time hours. I really am being able to have this balance and feeling like I have extra time and it's just.

Speaker 1:

It's an incredible feeling have to be okay with giving up the cell phone and being able to stay focused on the tasks that are at hand, whether it be personal or professional. And it's a struggle. I still struggle with it. But airplane mode's my best friend. Do not disturb is my best friend, I joke. So we're in the real estate space. We do affordable housing development and we're also a lender, and on the lending side I could get calls at all times of the hour or all times of the day.

Speaker 1:

And guess what, after six o'clock my time, if you're calling me, you're not getting me. You'll have to wait till the next day. If you couldn't call me between, I typically get in the saddle about 630 my time. I here in Arizona and I'll work till about five or six. But when I eat, you're not getting me. If you can't get me in 12 hours, you're not getting me. After that, that's my time to be able to relax, read, enjoy time with the family, do things. And until you start putting those hard boundaries in for time, you don't realize how much you're giving up of your life to things that could wait till 24 or 48 hours.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It's not until the kiddo brings home that thing from school that they do on like Mother's Day and Father's Day, and it's hey, answer those little questions what's mommy's favorite thing?

Speaker 2:

Her cell phone? It's not until you have these hard moments that you finally realize wait, something's off, or you're seeing the eye rolling or the resentment, or your spouse is getting frustrated. We don't need to wait that long. We can start putting some things in place and protecting ourselves. When I think about productivity, I really think it comes down to three Ps and they're incredibly simple to implement but incredibly hard to master, right. We're going to take a lot of practice. We're not going for perfection, we're going for persistence, but ultimately it comes down to number one. You've got to know your priorities. You have to know what matters most and put first things first right, like that most important thing that you need to do that day. That's the first thing. You do not the last thing. Because how many times do our days get derailed? Does that perfect day that we intended something pops up and shows up and it doesn't get to go that way. But when you started with that very first thing, that number one, it's okay if it gets derailed because you still made progress.

Speaker 2:

The second thing is being fully present, like fiercely protecting the moment you're in. When I am working, when I am with my kids. I am with my kids when I am on date night. I am on date night when I am taking a nap. I am fully enjoying taking a nap, right, like I'm fiercely protective of the moment that I am in and I find little ways and systems to help protect that. So, for example, I have I just switched offices, so it's actually not back on yet, but I have this little thing where it's attached to my door and it's a light and so if it's red everybody knows mom's probably on an interview Do not walk in. Or I'm in a project or right, it's something like do not disturb. If it's green, you can come in anytime, and if it's orange, it's okay, you can come in if you need to. But I like I'm trying to be productive here.

Speaker 2:

I just put in these little things to help. Before that, I used to literally have something that I like just stuck on the door. That was mom's hours, so everyone could walk up and see and know, don't disturb at certain times. But just putting in little systems that are going to protect your ability to be present, do not disturb is, you know, an example of one of those? And then the third one is is our it's purpose and, yes, know your purpose, but I actually mean it in the way of make decisions on purpose.

Speaker 2:

Stop letting decisions happen to you because you got sucked into the scroll, you got stuck into the email vortex, you got locked into whatever it is. Stop letting decisions be made for you. You make them on purpose. This is how I'm going to spend my day, this is what I want to accomplish. This is how I've planned it and then blocked it and then set timers to help myself do this right. Like we need to be the CEO of our own schedules.

Speaker 2:

And the funny thing is all these people running businesses being in really high executive levels in their profession and yet we're not allowing our own days to be dictated by ourselves. We're not making decisions on purpose for how our day is going to go, how our weeks are going to go, and they stack right. You have enough days where you can't figure out I don't really remember what I did, gosh, I never stopped moving, but I don't even know what I did. You stack enough of those on enough weeks, on enough months. And you look back and you just feel empty. You just you can't quite figure out, like why do I never stop running? But I don't feel fulfilled, I don't feel like I'm making a difference. I'm making that impact. It's because you haven't been making decisions on purpose.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love it. We're coming to that bottom of that hour for 30 minutes. A couple questions. One are you working or bringing on new clients?

Speaker 2:

clients, I am, yes, so within my memberships, my courses, absolutely. We have some really fun things that we're currently working on. One of them is I have decided I am done with social media. I have just decided it's such a time suck. It doesn't have the ROI that so many of us wanted to have, and I'm determined to create a revenue stream of six figures without social media whatsoever, and so that's something I'm going to be sharing the journey and helping others to do. I also love, obviously, teaching about time management, productivity, putting in systems that save us both in our home and in our businesses. So, yeah, I love doing all those things. I have my podcast Balancing, busy and weekly newsletters where I love to share the podcasts I'm on, share my podcasts and share tips and tricks. So all those things too.

Speaker 1:

And then, where's the best place for a potential client to reach out to you?

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to suggest I would love to just give a gift and I would say start there. I keep talking about systems and it can be really powerful to get to see systems You're like OK, I hear it, I like it, but I'm a visual. If you can just show me what that looks like, that's going to really help. So if anyone listening wants to go to giftbalancingbusycom, they can get access and actually see some of my systems and they're on a podcast platform right now listening to yours. So I'm going to suggest on a podcast platform right now listening to yours. So I'm going to suggest also take a minute right now and, as soon as you're done listening to this episode, go find Balancing Busy and follow my podcast and pick one that resonates and take a listen.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. I will also make sure that link is in the show notes so people can actually reach out to you. Thank you very much for coming on. I love what you're doing. It's sad that we have to get to the bottom of the barrel to make change, but it does work out in the end. But what you're doing and how you're helping others is great. But there's a couple of things in my mind that now I'm going to say, okay, I'm going to sit back down. I actually wrote some things while we were talking. I'm like I got some work to do. I got more work to do, but thank you very much for coming on and sharing this and really helping entrepreneurs, because there is a struggle with time.

Speaker 2:

Oh, there is, but we can overcome it and I think the more of us that are talking about it, the more we're going to normalize being able to take breaks, being able to put our phones down, being able to be more intentional and not feel like we're going to miss the train if we slow down for a second.

Speaker 1:

Yes, thank you for coming on. I love what you're doing.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

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